Wanna Convert? Think again...
This is a document issued by the Malaysian Bishops advising the faithful about the implication of converting to Islam.
(Published on 14th August 2005 in the local Catholic newspaper)
Dear Sisters and Brothers in the Lord,
If you convert to Islam, there are important changes in your legal status and what you can and cannot do. Your conversion to Islam will be registered with the Religious Department and the National Registration Department, both of which are computerised so access to this information is available throughout the country.
Under Syariah enactments of most of the 13 States of Malaysia;
1) Conversion back to your former religion is either (a) not allowed under the law, or (b) a criminal offence which means that you may be fined, detained or imprisoned under most State Islamic laws.
2) If you are under 18 years of age, you require your parents' permission to convert to Islam.
3) Your identity card will record your conversion to Islam. Therefore, even if you are no longer practising Islam, you may be fined, whipped, detained or imprisoned for violation of Syariah laws, such as praying in Church, eating in public during fasting month, khalwat, etc.
4) You cannot marry a non-Muslim. If you decide to divorce and attempt to convert out of Islam, you will lose custody of your children because they are Muslims.
5) Upon death, your non-Muslim relatives will lose their rights to your property, money, etc, that you want to leave to them. The corpse of a convert to Islam will be taken away from his or her non-Muslim family for Islamic rites and burial even if you have not been a practising Muslim for many years.
6) In the event that your spouse converts to Islam, you may have no right to either children or your spouse's property.
We know that certain Christians who convert to Islam for whatever reasons, are not aware of or do not consider seriously the implications of such conversion. Hence, the need to inform you. By this, we are neither against Islam nor the freedom of religion, which is guaranteed for all Malaysians in Article 11 of our Constitution which gives right to an individual to choose freely his or her religion. But to choose correctly, you need to know clearly what you choose and the consequences of your choice.
Archbishop Murphy Pakiam, Archbishop of Kuala Lumpur Bishop Anthony Selvanayagam, Bishop of Penang Bishop Paul Tan, Bishop of Malacca-Johor
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Question 1.
Article 11 of the Constitution states an individual has the right to choose freely his or her religion. How is it the spirit this article is not extended to Muslims?
Question 2.
How come man has to use man-made laws to enforce G/god's laws to punish the so-called deviants or apostates. If G/god's laws are so omnipotent then let them take their G/godly course, without human interference. Let those deviants or apostates answerable to G/god directly.
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All are welcome. Open to the public...
UNDERSTANDING THE RELIGIONS IN MALAYSIA
Organised by Fostering Inter-Religious Encounters (FIRE), St Francis Xavier Church, jointly with Sasana Abhiwurdhi Wardhana Society and Buddhist Missionary Society of Malaysia An 8-Session Course, every Saturday 3.30pm-6.00pm, from 18 Feb to 8 April
2006
Full details, visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InHarmony
(Published on 14th August 2005 in the local Catholic newspaper)
Dear Sisters and Brothers in the Lord,
If you convert to Islam, there are important changes in your legal status and what you can and cannot do. Your conversion to Islam will be registered with the Religious Department and the National Registration Department, both of which are computerised so access to this information is available throughout the country.
Under Syariah enactments of most of the 13 States of Malaysia;
1) Conversion back to your former religion is either (a) not allowed under the law, or (b) a criminal offence which means that you may be fined, detained or imprisoned under most State Islamic laws.
2) If you are under 18 years of age, you require your parents' permission to convert to Islam.
3) Your identity card will record your conversion to Islam. Therefore, even if you are no longer practising Islam, you may be fined, whipped, detained or imprisoned for violation of Syariah laws, such as praying in Church, eating in public during fasting month, khalwat, etc.
4) You cannot marry a non-Muslim. If you decide to divorce and attempt to convert out of Islam, you will lose custody of your children because they are Muslims.
5) Upon death, your non-Muslim relatives will lose their rights to your property, money, etc, that you want to leave to them. The corpse of a convert to Islam will be taken away from his or her non-Muslim family for Islamic rites and burial even if you have not been a practising Muslim for many years.
6) In the event that your spouse converts to Islam, you may have no right to either children or your spouse's property.
We know that certain Christians who convert to Islam for whatever reasons, are not aware of or do not consider seriously the implications of such conversion. Hence, the need to inform you. By this, we are neither against Islam nor the freedom of religion, which is guaranteed for all Malaysians in Article 11 of our Constitution which gives right to an individual to choose freely his or her religion. But to choose correctly, you need to know clearly what you choose and the consequences of your choice.
Archbishop Murphy Pakiam, Archbishop of Kuala Lumpur Bishop Anthony Selvanayagam, Bishop of Penang Bishop Paul Tan, Bishop of Malacca-Johor
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Question 1.
Article 11 of the Constitution states an individual has the right to choose freely his or her religion. How is it the spirit this article is not extended to Muslims?
Question 2.
How come man has to use man-made laws to enforce G/god's laws to punish the so-called deviants or apostates. If G/god's laws are so omnipotent then let them take their G/godly course, without human interference. Let those deviants or apostates answerable to G/god directly.
**********************************
All are welcome. Open to the public...
UNDERSTANDING THE RELIGIONS IN MALAYSIA
Organised by Fostering Inter-Religious Encounters (FIRE), St Francis Xavier Church, jointly with Sasana Abhiwurdhi Wardhana Society and Buddhist Missionary Society of Malaysia An 8-Session Course, every Saturday 3.30pm-6.00pm, from 18 Feb to 8 April
2006
Full details, visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InHarmony
posted by Philip at Thursday, February 09, 2006
3 Comments:
If I may say so, those laws are way too strict for it to be called freedom in religion. I understand that certain religion keep their tradition, but there is no way those are considered freedom in religion. If I'm a muslim, my kids are muslim? I don't think that even makes sense, even if I were not to practice the religion.
For people to say there is freedom in religion, I say they're all hoax. I believe there is freedom in faith. As far as religion goes, that's where the freedom is stopped and that is where laws within the federal laws are enforced. Well, at least sounds like it.
yeah..i agree with you in those points. I agree that the law covers the the issue of religion which in every sense restricts freedom because a boundary has been drawn. Faith is the deciding factor for freedom and salvation, if i may say so.
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